Comments on: A New Drawing by Titian https://metabunker.dk/2013/03/04/a-new-drawing-by-titian/ by matthias wivel & friends Wed, 27 Nov 2013 18:22:08 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0.4 By: B.barsoum https://metabunker.dk/2013/03/04/a-new-drawing-by-titian/comment-page-1/#comment-45969 Wed, 27 Nov 2013 18:22:08 +0000 http://metabunker.dk/?p=5456#comment-45969 Dear Dr. Wivel
I sent the info. Last Saturday and I wonder if you have seen it.
Thanks,
B.Barsoum

]]> By: B.Barsoum https://metabunker.dk/2013/03/04/a-new-drawing-by-titian/comment-page-1/#comment-45639 Wed, 20 Nov 2013 01:07:48 +0000 http://metabunker.dk/?p=5456#comment-45639 Please email to my email address and on Saturday morning I’ll email photos and information .
Thanks,

]]> By: Matthias Wivel https://metabunker.dk/2013/03/04/a-new-drawing-by-titian/comment-page-1/#comment-45635 Tue, 19 Nov 2013 23:24:02 +0000 http://metabunker.dk/?p=5456#comment-45635 Yes, I can email it.

]]> By: B.Barsoum https://metabunker.dk/2013/03/04/a-new-drawing-by-titian/comment-page-1/#comment-45602 Tue, 19 Nov 2013 04:00:33 +0000 http://metabunker.dk/?p=5456#comment-45602 Do you have an image of the complete sketch “titian”

]]> By: B.Barsoum https://metabunker.dk/2013/03/04/a-new-drawing-by-titian/comment-page-1/#comment-45600 Tue, 19 Nov 2013 03:02:47 +0000 http://metabunker.dk/?p=5456#comment-45600 Thanks, I’ll email the information and image this weekend .

]]> By: Matthias Wivel https://metabunker.dk/2013/03/04/a-new-drawing-by-titian/comment-page-1/#comment-45593 Mon, 18 Nov 2013 23:33:26 +0000 http://metabunker.dk/?p=5456#comment-45593 Sure, you can find my email is in ‘contact’ above.

]]> By: B.Barsoum https://metabunker.dk/2013/03/04/a-new-drawing-by-titian/comment-page-1/#comment-45586 Mon, 18 Nov 2013 21:03:46 +0000 http://metabunker.dk/?p=5456#comment-45586 Could I solicit your help / input with an early 16Th. Century Baroque painting related to this sketch . It had been an anegma to a lot for long.
I would like to use your personal email address not the public one , should you agree.
Best wishes.
B.Barsoum

]]> By: Matthias Wivel https://metabunker.dk/2013/03/04/a-new-drawing-by-titian/comment-page-1/#comment-45583 Mon, 18 Nov 2013 19:16:33 +0000 http://metabunker.dk/?p=5456#comment-45583 No, seriously, I very much appreciate your input. I think the Pitti painting deserves greater consideration in general, but also in this particular context. While I’m quite convinced that the drawing is by Titian, there’s much there still to be understood, not only as to its dating, but also to the geneology of the figural arrangement. So thanks!

]]> By: B.Barsoum https://metabunker.dk/2013/03/04/a-new-drawing-by-titian/comment-page-1/#comment-45582 Mon, 18 Nov 2013 19:11:54 +0000 http://metabunker.dk/?p=5456#comment-45582 I raise a white flag , you wine .
Thanks

]]> By: Matthias Wivel https://metabunker.dk/2013/03/04/a-new-drawing-by-titian/comment-page-1/#comment-45558 Mon, 18 Nov 2013 11:06:51 +0000 http://metabunker.dk/?p=5456#comment-45558 Ah, the Pitti painting, yes. It does indeed make use of the same figural arrangement, as does Veronese’s Caen St. Anthony, as I point out in the BM article. I also to the figures at the far right of this design by Baccio Bandinelli as the possible protoype. I suspect that both Schiavone and Veronese are indebted to Titian, possibly via Bandinelli, here.

In any case, I don’t think the present drawing looks like Schiavone’s confirmed works, while it does look like Titian’s confirmed sheets.

]]> By: B.Barsoum https://metabunker.dk/2013/03/04/a-new-drawing-by-titian/comment-page-1/#comment-45544 Mon, 18 Nov 2013 01:48:21 +0000 http://metabunker.dk/?p=5456#comment-45544 Close resemblance to Chiovane’s Cain and Abel

]]> By: Matthias Wivel https://metabunker.dk/2013/03/04/a-new-drawing-by-titian/comment-page-1/#comment-45533 Sun, 17 Nov 2013 21:29:34 +0000 http://metabunker.dk/?p=5456#comment-45533 Interesting suggestion. I obviously don’t think so — Schiavone’s drawings, as I understand them, are less forceful, more fluid, at times almost diffused. But I’d be interested in what makes you think of him in this context!

]]> By: B.Barsoum https://metabunker.dk/2013/03/04/a-new-drawing-by-titian/comment-page-1/#comment-45482 Sun, 17 Nov 2013 05:37:55 +0000 http://metabunker.dk/?p=5456#comment-45482 Could it be by Andrea Chiovane (1510-1563) ??

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