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		By: Matthias Wivel		</title>
		<link>https://metabunker.dk/2010/01/15/2009-the-year-in-comics-criticism/comment-page-1/#comment-4307</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthias Wivel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 00:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah, Moore kind of used that voice too -- it&#039;s ridiculous.

I wasn&#039;t aware the extended cut was out. I don&#039;t know if I care, but perhaps I should check it out. 

Oh, I agree that the opening sequence is pretty good, it&#039;s just... the use of music is so *obvious* throughout the film, and I can&#039;t help but feel patronised a bit by the lacing of &quot;The Times They Are A-Changing&quot; there. There seems to me a kind of annoying baby boomer reverence going on. (Of course, the absolute worst, and the choice that kind of says all, is the horrid cover version of &quot;Desolation Row&quot; at the end).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Moore kind of used that voice too &#8212; it&#8217;s ridiculous.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t aware the extended cut was out. I don&#8217;t know if I care, but perhaps I should check it out. </p>
<p>Oh, I agree that the opening sequence is pretty good, it&#8217;s just&#8230; the use of music is so *obvious* throughout the film, and I can&#8217;t help but feel patronised a bit by the lacing of &#8220;The Times They Are A-Changing&#8221; there. There seems to me a kind of annoying baby boomer reverence going on. (Of course, the absolute worst, and the choice that kind of says all, is the horrid cover version of &#8220;Desolation Row&#8221; at the end).</p>
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		By: Christian Rasmussen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 13:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A great piece of critique! I would probably share most of your sentiments if I were to deal with the movie critically. 

However, I think it&#039;s a shame you don&#039;t mention the fantastic montage sequence in the beginning, which, by using the film formats strengths, elegantly give us a lot of information on the back story. 

I see what you mean about Rorschach&#039;s voice, but I think Moore read it out in the same hoarse voice, in the clip that&#039;s available on youtube. 

Also, I have &#039;The ultimate cut&#039; (he), and it has the newstand scenes, and they are pretty terrible, there&#039;s this sub-plot with the knot-tops bullying young Bernie, which I have no idea why they put in there. They even interlaced the animated feature of Tale of The Black Freighter in the actual film, which is extremely annoying, and adds absolutely nothing to the main narrative. The only good thing in the extended version, is the murder of Hollis Mason, which have some nice cross-cutting of Nite Owl I fighting Nazis.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great piece of critique! I would probably share most of your sentiments if I were to deal with the movie critically. </p>
<p>However, I think it&#8217;s a shame you don&#8217;t mention the fantastic montage sequence in the beginning, which, by using the film formats strengths, elegantly give us a lot of information on the back story. </p>
<p>I see what you mean about Rorschach&#8217;s voice, but I think Moore read it out in the same hoarse voice, in the clip that&#8217;s available on youtube. </p>
<p>Also, I have &#8216;The ultimate cut&#8217; (he), and it has the newstand scenes, and they are pretty terrible, there&#8217;s this sub-plot with the knot-tops bullying young Bernie, which I have no idea why they put in there. They even interlaced the animated feature of Tale of The Black Freighter in the actual film, which is extremely annoying, and adds absolutely nothing to the main narrative. The only good thing in the extended version, is the murder of Hollis Mason, which have some nice cross-cutting of Nite Owl I fighting Nazis.</p>
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		By: Matthias Wivel		</title>
		<link>https://metabunker.dk/2010/01/15/2009-the-year-in-comics-criticism/comment-page-1/#comment-4255</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think he&#039;s onto something in his analysis of how Moore builds most of his work on systems of interconnectedness, clockwork-like structures, and this is indeed postmodern, but at the same time I don&#039;t agree that the main motivating factor is &#039;useless&#039; &#039;geekism&#039;; it rather seems to reflect a deeply held belief in such a cosmology, full of meaning. Rilestone&#039;s take on the same issue is more sensitive, I think.

More horn tooting: &lt;a href=&quot;http://metabunker.dk/?p=1789
&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;re: the Watchmen film.&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think he&#8217;s onto something in his analysis of how Moore builds most of his work on systems of interconnectedness, clockwork-like structures, and this is indeed postmodern, but at the same time I don&#8217;t agree that the main motivating factor is &#8216;useless&#8217; &#8216;geekism&#8217;; it rather seems to reflect a deeply held belief in such a cosmology, full of meaning. Rilestone&#8217;s take on the same issue is more sensitive, I think.</p>
<p>More horn tooting: <a href="http://metabunker.dk/?p=1789
" rel="nofollow">re: the Watchmen film.</a></p>
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		By: Christian Rasmussen		</title>
		<link>https://metabunker.dk/2010/01/15/2009-the-year-in-comics-criticism/comment-page-1/#comment-4228</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christian Rasmussen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 17:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hmm, I disagree with most of the stuff Crippen writes in his article, although I see where he is coming from, and his arguments are very well presented. I certainly don&#039;t hold From Hell in as low esteem as he does, on the contrary I think it&#039;s pretty close to Watchmen in greatness.  
Watchmen (and From Hell) is in no way perfect, but it&#039;s still an awe-inspiring work, that we still discuss 20+ years since its conception.

It seems Crippen is beating Watchmen with a conceptual geek-stick, i.e. evaluating Watchmen from a fanatical fanboys perspective, rather than looking at the work for its own merits.

And call me a geek, but I enjoyed the movie, which (of course) doesn&#039;t compare to the comic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, I disagree with most of the stuff Crippen writes in his article, although I see where he is coming from, and his arguments are very well presented. I certainly don&#8217;t hold From Hell in as low esteem as he does, on the contrary I think it&#8217;s pretty close to Watchmen in greatness.<br />
Watchmen (and From Hell) is in no way perfect, but it&#8217;s still an awe-inspiring work, that we still discuss 20+ years since its conception.</p>
<p>It seems Crippen is beating Watchmen with a conceptual geek-stick, i.e. evaluating Watchmen from a fanatical fanboys perspective, rather than looking at the work for its own merits.</p>
<p>And call me a geek, but I enjoyed the movie, which (of course) doesn&#8217;t compare to the comic.</p>
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		By: Christian Rasmussen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ah! I got that it was inspired by Rilestone&#039;s essay, but not that it was about Watchmen per se, it&#039;s next on the list!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah! I got that it was inspired by Rilestone&#8217;s essay, but not that it was about Watchmen per se, it&#8217;s next on the list!</p>
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		By: Matthias Wivel		</title>
		<link>https://metabunker.dk/2010/01/15/2009-the-year-in-comics-criticism/comment-page-1/#comment-4225</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthias Wivel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, that&#039;s an old, rather sophomoric thing; I was thinking about Crippen&#039;s piece?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, that&#8217;s an old, rather sophomoric thing; I was thinking about Crippen&#8217;s piece?</p>
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		By: Christian Rasmussen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christian Rasmussen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh sorry, Rilestone&#039;s. I haven&#039;t read yours on Rackham yet (but am doing so right now).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh sorry, Rilestone&#8217;s. I haven&#8217;t read yours on Rackham yet (but am doing so right now).</p>
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		<link>https://metabunker.dk/2010/01/15/2009-the-year-in-comics-criticism/comment-page-1/#comment-4219</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthias Wivel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Which one?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which one?</p>
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		By: Christian Rasmussen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christian Rasmussen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Very interesting, clever and funny piece on Watchmen.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting, clever and funny piece on Watchmen.</p>
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